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the oldest and strongest human emotion

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane

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my name is lon strickler

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join me as i examine unexplained

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creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory

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but for new knowledge of the

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supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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together

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explain live on beyond explanation

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i'm your host lon stricker coming to you

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within a cannon shot of the howled

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fields of gettysburg pennsylvania thanks

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for joining you

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so as many of you know we lost a dear

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and close friend this week which

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wikowski passed away yesterday morning

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so i'm going to tell you a bit about

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butch butch was an independent

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researcher since 1989

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when along with four other people

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witnessed a ufo of substantial size

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quietly hover above the mountain

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in tucson arizona

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now that was a day that he began his

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investigations into the ufo phenomenon

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he soon became a member of mufon

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and a field investigator after moving

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back to pennsylvania he concentrated on

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ufo research in cases related to alien

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abduction

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mutilations and unexplained encounters

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now butch had been a member of the

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carnarvon township pennsylvania police

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department in the

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1970s he used his investigative

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abilities as a police officer officer

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for his field work later becoming the

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founder of ufo research center in

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pennsylvania

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i met butch for the first time in

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2013 after expressing my continued

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interest

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in the todd sees death case

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we combined our research and years of

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experience making great strides to

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deeply examine the incident and i'm

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proud to say that butch's determination

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for finding the truth led to several

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revelations

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about the case

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uh now not long after we started working

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together he became interested in

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cryptids especially the dog man upright

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since 2015

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butch's efforts culminated in exposing

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over 30 modern sightings and encounters

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throughout the state

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now after the formation of phantoms and

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monsters 14 research butch became one of

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our lead investigators on the team

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always striving for the facts through

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unwavering research

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which was a regular guest on internet

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and radio talk shows beginning with his

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in a month mostly stick at spaced out

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uh strange days with butch witch casket

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now butch and i were close friends and

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colleagues he was always there to take

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my telephone call and to talk

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and i'm going to truly miss his

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dedication his wit his humor

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and one day i'm sure we'll meet again in

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bcpi investigates it all now tonight

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eric is here along with some of his team

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so folks thanks for joining me this

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evening hey lon thanks for having us

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here this is great happy new year thanks

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happy new year

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and our condolences about butch too man

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yeah we we appreciate that uh you know

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it's tough when you lose a a valued

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member of the team so yeah we're very

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appreciative of that so eric you've been

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some of your folks that are with joining

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researcher ellen collins and we've got

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my good buddy dominic satell we've known

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so first of all let's talk about

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one of your bigger investigations and

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the one i'm more interested in be honest

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the beast of beret road the upright

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canine settings out in southern south

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anecdotes that come along with it and uh

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um i'll start off by saying um ellen is

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creature but i never really knew about

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this creature and i'll get into that in

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absolutely overwhelmed me um and it

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overwhelmed eric and ellen and scott our

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drone operator i mean just and the

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cameraman i mean it just absolutely just

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blew us away

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said was really the impetus for us

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getting getting this together because

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the on the beast degree road

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this creature but there was a long

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get ridiculed and this is why a lot of

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encountering what we encountered out

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there changed my whole perspective on

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the cryptid

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out there because there is definitely

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and we all saw it and heard it there's

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something out there on that property and

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um and so

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the

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got into town and we took we basically

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talked to a lot of people

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and uh and also if my memory you know

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gets off track here get me back on track

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guys um

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and we went to uh donna's uh convention

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uh we didn't talk to a lot of people

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there

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um but we talked to them after or

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actually i think before the convention

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started

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right on bray road as a matter of fact

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which

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even you can't even park your car on

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bray road they'll

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the police come right and get you out of

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there but we were there for like an hour

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two hours

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the sheriff came up he just wanted to

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know what we were doing we said we're

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just doing some documentary we're doing

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some interviews he was like okay cool

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we were flying scott had his drone in

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the air and we're standing on the side

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of the road when you know the he came up

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the officer and it was just i mean he

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was just like okay no big deal

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for the first thing that we saw when

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scott was doing his drone work was

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this

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so there are huge

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cutouts the corn happened to be up it

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still happened to be up at that yeah

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yeah and when we

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scott took the drone up

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and lawn this is unbelievable there were

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thick cutouts in the corn

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going from bray road

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over to lee's property

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across the road and then going down into

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the quarry yeah

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towards the quarry and it was going down

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to where the the creek bed was where

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there was like a little stream

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so this was not a vehicle nothing like

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that was but these were wide swaths of

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the corn being knocked down so

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something's going through there that's

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average on a regular basis too

339
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that's quite the path yeah yeah and the

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thing with the path was is that you know

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it was it was wide but there were corn

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stalks in the middle still growing so if

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it was a vehicle the corn stalks all

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would have been knocked down and they

345
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weren't

346
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yeah that was odd yeah um

347
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i know hasn't the the beast been seen

348
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over at the quarry too yeah yes

349
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yeah

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that was saturday we were doing some

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drone work and got all that uh evidence

352
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there which was just already we're like

353
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wow what's going on here already

354
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then we go over and uh we talked uh to

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leo actually we talked to elise brother

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fred hampel yep

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great guy phenomenal guy

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uh

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was an ibm

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uh guy computer guy you know had no

361
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interest in cryptids nothing of the

362
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paranormal was a complete skeptic

363
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but then after what lee was encountering

364
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and what he encountered himself on the

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property he's a total believer now

366
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they're getting they're getting seven

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pad

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uh prints on the property yeah which

369
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nothing is is there that has seven pat

370
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or seven toad creature and five pets

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um well

372
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and it's also it's bipedal it you know

373
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it's bipedal it's there's

374
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just one after the other it's not four

375
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legs it's two legs the the pictures that

376
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lee showed us the video i mean weird

377
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lights on the property at night uh

378
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he has tracks in the snow going from one

379
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track straight ahead morphing into two

380
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yeah two tracks just like this so

381
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something walking ahead of itself and

382
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then it just morphs into so that that in

383
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itself was was mind-blowing uh but we

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talked to fred and uh

385
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lee has a lot of trail cams down there

386
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so leah's got

387
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thousands and thousands of pictures

388
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of this creature not only the creature

389
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but

390
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weird lights

391
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a strange mist

392
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very strange mist and this is something

393
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i'm sure you know about this lawn when

394
00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:44,079
you see a big when you have a bigfoot

395
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encounter

396
00:14:49,590 --> 00:14:47,120
you've also got this mist that happens

397
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for some odd reason

398
00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:51,040
do you get a lot of reports like that

399
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too yeah they seem to be um

400
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you know i i personally believe that

401
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most cryptids and that includes bigfoot

402
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:01,600
and you know wing humanoids and even

403
00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,079
upright canines have got

404
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:06,480
supernatural aspects to them that they

405
00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:09,920
may actually be able to manifest into

406
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:11,600
something else or

407
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you know vanish or somehow i i do

408
00:15:17,269 --> 00:15:15,680
believe that

409
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where they go do they go into the

410
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dimensions or do they are able to cloak

411
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themselves something i don't know what

412
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it is

413
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i um but i believe

414
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from some of the things i have heard

415
00:15:31,910 --> 00:15:30,399
around brave and around that part of

416
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wisconsin

417
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that uh

418
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that's what's going on

419
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that's what i and i had said that to lee

420
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i said we said to lee i said the other

421
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thing about his property is

422
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could this be a portal

423
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some kind of like

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portal area where

425
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things are happening on the property and

426
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he he absolutely believes that that

427
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,279
that's the case because he's even got

428
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pictures that he showed us but we

429
00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:57,199
weren't really allowed to get them on on

430
00:16:00,870 --> 00:15:59,759
the video right of portals he's got

431
00:16:03,110 --> 00:16:00,880
pictures of

432
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something there in the doorway of this

433
00:16:07,990 --> 00:16:05,360
particular photo and it was like it was

434
00:16:10,310 --> 00:16:08,000
like an orb and inside that orb was a

435
00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:10,320
doorway and you could you could actually

436
00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,199
see

437
00:16:15,509 --> 00:16:13,519
something there

438
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:15,519
some kind of figure yeah it looked like

439
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:16,720
a creature so

440
00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,600
that was so all of the stuff that any

441
00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:21,199
and he's been doing all kinds of

442
00:16:26,069 --> 00:16:23,360
scientific experiments um on the

443
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,079
property too yep um being that he's a

444
00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:28,720
teacher that's like his background

445
00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:30,800
he's trying to you know disprove what's

446
00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:33,360
going on but he's getting so much proof

447
00:16:39,030 --> 00:16:36,079
he's like how can i disprove what what

448
00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:39,040
i'm proving exactly i know and him and

449
00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:41,360
fred hey man for oh yeah yeah yeah

450
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you're doing it

451
00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:43,440
so

452
00:16:46,629 --> 00:16:44,639
um this

453
00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:46,639
so saturday was a good day saturday we

454
00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:48,079
had a really good day

455
00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:50,399
and uh it's talked to a lot of people

456
00:16:55,749 --> 00:16:52,959
we went to uh well eric don't don't

457
00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,759
forget when we were there saturday he we

458
00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:57,519
were able to drive down

459
00:17:00,629 --> 00:16:59,519
right right into the back and we had

460
00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:00,639
scott

461
00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:03,440
put up his drone oh that's right so

462
00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:05,919
that's right scott had the drone and the

463
00:17:09,669 --> 00:17:07,600
the thing that lee's been having a lot

464
00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:09,679
of problems on on the property is he's

465
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:11,839
getting a lot of electronic disturbances

466
00:17:14,789 --> 00:17:13,199
on the property

467
00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:14,799
so scott

468
00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:17,679
has i mean scott's drones this is no

469
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:20,640
just ordinary drone opera he is like

470
00:17:25,669 --> 00:17:21,839
cutting edge

471
00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:25,679
um it's uh phantom flights f what is it

472
00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:26,880
yeah

473
00:17:30,710 --> 00:17:29,280
that's his company i mean he's just like

474
00:17:33,270 --> 00:17:30,720
zipping around

475
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:33,280
he wears a virtual reality glasses in

476
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:35,760
order to see where he's going well this

477
00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:38,880
particular time he's looking for us and

478
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:40,799
we disappeared from the screen in the

479
00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:41,760
field

480
00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:43,840
yep he couldn't find us

481
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:46,960
yeah so this is another this is another

482
00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:49,440
anomaly that happened where we're again

483
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,840
we're talking about that portal

484
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:53,760
what's going on there what is there's

485
00:17:57,510 --> 00:17:55,679
some kind of a veil there that something

486
00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:57,520
there there's something there and he

487
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,280
basically couldn't find us and then he

488
00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,120
write it himself and he was able to find

489
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:03,440
us but it was something that like that

490
00:18:07,830 --> 00:18:06,080
never happened to him yeah and it was

491
00:18:09,430 --> 00:18:07,840
just a very very strange thing that was

492
00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:09,440
the first thing that was like

493
00:18:13,669 --> 00:18:11,440
that was the very first thing you know

494
00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,679
went down there uh lee showed us the

495
00:18:17,029 --> 00:18:15,360
property lisa showed us the area that

496
00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:17,039
he's been getting a lot of activity on

497
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:19,200
so we went down there talked about it

498
00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,960
um and all of this is in our video it's

499
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called the beast of gray road alive and

500
00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:25,280
well i i really encourage people to go

501
00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:26,640
check that out because there is just a

502
00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:30,400
lot on there um but then so

503
00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:32,960
so we get down there and uh leigh's

504
00:18:35,909 --> 00:18:34,559
talking to us about that we're talking

505
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:35,919
about portals

506
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and i think right after that we went to

507
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uh the restaurant i think that yeah i

508
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:44,240
think so um

509
00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:47,039
and so we went to a restaurant and

510
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we

511
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earlier in the day i think

512
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right uh after we talked to lee

513
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we had had steak bones the night before

514
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and

515
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:01,600
it okay if we bait the area yeah could

516
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:04,240
we bait the area state boats go

517
00:19:07,669 --> 00:19:04,960
i

518
00:19:09,909 --> 00:19:07,679
try that

519
00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:09,919
so what state we put stake bones in that

520
00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:11,360
area that he's been getting a lot of the

521
00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:14,000
activity yeah and i think donna i think

522
00:19:19,190 --> 00:19:16,640
dominic and i found a uh founder we

523
00:19:20,710 --> 00:19:19,200
found two footprints

524
00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:20,720
when we were baiting the area we found

525
00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:23,440
the footprints yeah um so we left it

526
00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,000
there and then as we're driving back we

527
00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:27,840
had these uh four-wheelers going back to

528
00:19:31,270 --> 00:19:30,160
lee's property ellen's in her truck

529
00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:31,280
behind us

530
00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,360
and we're just and one thought's going

531
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,200
through my head i'm like was baiting

532
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,360
that area with steak bones a good or bad

533
00:19:41,750 --> 00:19:39,440
idea

534
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:41,760
and we've and

535
00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:44,000
it was not a good it was not good yeah

536
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,520
that's the one of the footprints that's

537
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:47,280
one of the footprints right there

538
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,320
yeah

539
00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:50,880
amazing and uh everyone that's looked at

540
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:52,960
this can't figure it out because it's

541
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:55,600
just something that's just not natural

542
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:57,760
how wide was that

543
00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:59,679
oh man it was what did he say it was

544
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:02,159
like three by three by four three by

545
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,760
five five something like that five

546
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:07,200
bigger than the hand print like your

547
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:08,240
hand

548
00:20:14,470 --> 00:20:11,520
um

549
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:14,480
yeah and it and that dirt was pretty

550
00:20:18,830 --> 00:20:16,799
solid so that actually put some put some

551
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:18,840
weight into it

552
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,600
yeah that's a creature yeah

553
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:23,760
uh the other thing is lee showed us some

554
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,640
unbelievable pictures to hair samples

555
00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,799
the hair samples that he caught or that

556
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:30,159
he has

557
00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:32,559
they they're translucent under the

558
00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:35,440
microscope there's no mendula in the in

559
00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:37,919
the hair yeah that's similar to bigfoot

560
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:40,240
exactly yeah i thought myself and i'm

561
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:41,679
thinking to myself well

562
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:43,840
could this be some kind of a cloaking

563
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,240
device could this be how

564
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:48,240
they can cloak themselves you know like

565
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:49,679
when you're in the woods and you see a

566
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:50,720
deer

567
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:55,840
that you almost hardly see it

568
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:57,919
i'm thinking it's some similar to that

569
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,600
where it could be right there in front

570
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:01,039
of you but you don't you just can't see

571
00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:04,240
it you know okay so that was one of the

572
00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:05,360
things there

573
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,240
um

574
00:21:10,870 --> 00:21:08,720
we went to the restaurant and uh we

575
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:10,880
actually were approached by a couple

576
00:21:14,630 --> 00:21:12,720
i mean we didn't even lan we didn't even

577
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,640
need to talk to anybody they were coming

578
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,559
to us

579
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:18,000
while we were walking around with our

580
00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:19,600
shirts on and

581
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,080
all our investigative things and people

582
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:23,520
were just coming up to us on the

583
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:26,640
airplane in the airport

584
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,640
it was wild but we got to the restaurant

585
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:30,000
and people were just telling us their

586
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,280
story yeah and it was amazing and this

587
00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,440
couple uh came up to me and i said hey

588
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:37,679
is it okay if i get you guys on video so

589
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,440
i took a little cell phone video of her

590
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,520
testimony and they were going down gray

591
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:43,919
road and they saw this huge like black

592
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,640
thing just going along with their car

593
00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:48,880
like just running along with the car and

594
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:50,159
it was huge

595
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:52,320
and uh so

596
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:53,520
they didn't know what it was they

597
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,880
couldn't figure it out but they said

598
00:21:58,710 --> 00:21:56,240
well do you think we just saw the beast

599
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:58,720
debris road yeah so

600
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:01,600
that's how popular this thing is in in

601
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,240
elkhorn wisconsin um we actually went

602
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:06,480
down to this guy's house on bray road

603
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:09,919
that has a beautiful sculpture of the of

604
00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,470
so nobody really had talked to this guy

605
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,960
and i dominic and i went up to the house

606
00:22:27,110 --> 00:22:24,159
and i knocked on the door and i'm

607
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,120
waiting to hear you know

608
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:29,760
but he was totally cool he was like i

609
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:31,760
said we just wanted to take some video

610
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:34,400
of the of your awesome structure and he

611
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:36,559
thought it was cool so he uh and he was

612
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:39,200
a nice guy he turned out this guy

613
00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,679
and he allowed let us take some video

614
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,520
but um

615
00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:45,919
so i want to i'm kind of leading up to

616
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,039
the to the investigation because uh

617
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,960
like the night this this was the night

618
00:22:55,750 --> 00:22:52,799
of october 3rd

619
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,760
yeah and we went to uh we went to lee's

620
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:58,400
barn so we went to lee's barn again

621
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,240
and he showed us more pictures of a a

622
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,960
lot of really crazy things too how are

623
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:07,039
thing that this is this is where the

624
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:09,919
electronic anomaly thing happens here

625
00:23:13,669 --> 00:23:10,720
so

626
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:13,679
he has trail cam pictures that suddenly

627
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,440
the years

628
00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,000
are altered

629
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:20,000
like all of a sudden he's got a picture

630
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:22,000
from 2087.

631
00:23:25,430 --> 00:23:23,440
yeah yep

632
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:25,440
right and it was like oh yeah and then

633
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:27,280
they weren't jpegs anymore they were

634
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:30,960
kpegs and z and eggs and yeah the file

635
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:32,559
extension name

636
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,080
totally changed within within the folder

637
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,080
of where it was storing everything he

638
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:40,400
has no he has no idea how that you know

639
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:41,919
that's interesting because we get the

640
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:44,720
same phenomena sometimes when we're on

641
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,279
videotape somebody's videotaping ufos

642
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:48,720
activity

643
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:50,799
where it gets that same type when people

644
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,640
go back into their files that they got

645
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:54,480
stored on there and and stuff's been all

646
00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:57,520
screwed up yeah and uh yeah i've seen

647
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:00,799
jpegs get moved around and get you know

648
00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:03,679
so yeah yeah that's interesting just

649
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,600
just to be out but out in the field

650
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,679
though it's like what's new what's doing

651
00:24:11,110 --> 00:24:09,440
it out there there's nobody out there

652
00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,120
yeah that's the whole that's the mystery

653
00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:13,120
here yeah and well the whole thing with

654
00:24:17,350 --> 00:24:16,240
with fred and even lee was saying that

655
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:17,360
at night

656
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,480
out there yeah everything changes and

657
00:24:23,909 --> 00:24:22,000
you know they they were trying to

658
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,919
prepare us for it and

659
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,000
i don't think we were no way to prepare

660
00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:28,159
us for what yeah so there's no way it

661
00:24:32,870 --> 00:24:30,559
will this time when we go back we'll be

662
00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,880
more prepared

663
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:34,880
yeah i mean but it was just it was weird

664
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:37,039
i mean that night it was it was

665
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,240
storm was coming in it was all overcast

666
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:42,480
it was cloudy you could see lightning

667
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,029
yeah

668
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:51,520
so but it totally it totally when we got

669
00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:53,360
out to the field i said to uh to lee i

670
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:55,679
said listen thank you so much for for

671
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:57,760
showing us your photos

672
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,279
it blew our mind i mean we couldn't

673
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,279
believe it and i said to him let's uh

674
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:02,559
we're going to do an investigation in

675
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,000
the in the field the back said okay with

676
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:06,400
you he's like absolutely so we went back

677
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,559
there and we took the four-wheelers back

678
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,640
there dominic was afraid that we would

679
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:12,320
whatever was back there if there was

680
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,320
anything back there we'd scare it off

681
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,000
with the forward

682
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,559
well that theory went out the door

683
00:25:21,669 --> 00:25:19,679
oh yeah

684
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,679
because we get out to the field scott

685
00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:23,360
set up the gopro

686
00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:25,600
ellen you had the truck you were in the

687
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,190
the first thing that happened though lon

688
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:41,200
scott's go pro

689
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,600
could not he could not get it to link up

690
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,039
yeah

691
00:25:48,789 --> 00:25:46,799
again we're having this electronic thing

692
00:25:51,510 --> 00:25:48,799
happen yeah we couldn't get anything to

693
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,520
record there in that particular area

694
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:53,360
which had no problem before

695
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,640
yeah so no problem whatsoever before so

696
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,720
um that was the first thing

697
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:00,880
and then we got together as the team and

698
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:02,799
usually i like to break up the team and

699
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,230
to cover more area

700
00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:10,000
at this point i said you know what we

701
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,039
better just stick together just in case

702
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:15,120
so yeah and yeah

703
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,320
i did because

704
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:18,640
i gave ellen our flashlight the radio

705
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,400
and literally that's all we had

706
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,960
flashlights and radios yeah you know

707
00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:23,679
well

708
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:26,080
lee did offer a flare gun if we wanted

709
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,200
it yeah and we we should have taken it

710
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:30,720
now we'll be okay you know it's it's

711
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:32,320
fine uh

712
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:33,760
give me the shotgun but he didn't even

713
00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:35,919
offer that

714
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,080
but that could like we were even saying

715
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:40,559
that may not have even done anything to

716
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:42,720
it as well no

717
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,799
uh because i go back to stan gordon's

718
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:46,400
account of some of the bigfoots the

719
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,720
woman shot at the bigfoot yeah and it

720
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,480
disappeared yeah

721
00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:52,240
you know so i don't know i mean it could

722
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,760
be something like that but

723
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:56,320
um if it's a flesh and blood creature

724
00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,960
you know i mean but so that night we're

725
00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:01,120
out there and uh so we get there

726
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,440
uh dominic i'll let you take the first

727
00:27:07,110 --> 00:27:06,000
piece of this because you're the one

728
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:07,120
yeah so

729
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,200
you know it's overcast it's cloudy we go

730
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,799
out there to the site

731
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:13,200
uh we're real close to where we baited

732
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,720
and i look up

733
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:15,760
and

734
00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,840
it the sky is just clear over top of his

735
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:20,559
field and

736
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,640
as i look up i was like

737
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:25,200
what the hell is that and eric's like

738
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,120
what and i'm like look and i'm pointing

739
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:29,520
pointing up to the sky and eric looks up

740
00:27:32,789 --> 00:27:31,520
and he goes what is it and i'm like it's

741
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:32,799
a ufo

742
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,919
it was just a solid bright white light

743
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,600
right above us and it just started

744
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:40,159
moving when we saw it

745
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,760
scott

746
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,679
pointed the camera up was able to get it

747
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,960
on camera

748
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,760
and this light just moved and it was

749
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:49,760
moving quicker than a plane it was

750
00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,240
heading directly towards a plane and

751
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:55,200
then made a 45 and disappeared it just

752
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,120
totally disappeared and we caught it all

753
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:00,240
on video it's yeah it's all there and i

754
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:03,360
mean it was what maybe maybe 10 to 20

755
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,399
seconds tops and well

756
00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,399
and ellen was saying it was going away

757
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,159
from us really fast which it was it was

758
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,679
going down yeah

759
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:14,159
and the other thing is it wasn't a plane

760
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,960
because

761
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,480
all the other planes you could see the

762
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:18,640
planes blinking this was

763
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:21,520
just a solid light

764
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:23,919
so that was the first thing then

765
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:27,120
the second thing was all of a sudden

766
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:28,159
we hear

767
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:29,679
in the distance

768
00:28:32,789 --> 00:28:30,799
a howl

769
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:32,799
um

770
00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:35,760
or a scream a scream or hell it was very

771
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:38,320
light in the distance yeah well about

772
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:41,120
1500 yards maybe a little bit further

773
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,000
away

774
00:28:46,950 --> 00:28:44,559
then we hear a second one

775
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:46,960
you're the second howl and it's getting

776
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,279
closer and all of a sudden

777
00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:50,960
dominic goes to ellen because ellen you

778
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,799
were kind of like in a you were still

779
00:28:57,190 --> 00:28:54,720
looking at the ufo trying to figure wrap

780
00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:57,200
your head around that yeah and

781
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,120
dominic says are you hearing this

782
00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:00,640
and you're like yeah it's coming from

783
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:02,720
over there which we later found out

784
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:06,799
coming from the wetlands area yep yep so

785
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:09,120
which was only about 300 yards away that

786
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:12,320
was only got 300 years now we have uh

787
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,440
lavalier very very small lavalier uh

788
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,679
microphones as close because we've close

789
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,880
mic'd ourselves because we didn't want

790
00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:21,600
to get the extraneous sound well those

791
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,720
mics

792
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,320
caught the third

793
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,600
powell which was a scream it was like a

794
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,480
man screaming in the field yeah it did

795
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:32,720
not it was not a wolf it was not a

796
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:33,840
coyote

797
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:36,559
it wasn't a fox it wasn't a screech owl

798
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:40,240
anything like that this was a guttural

799
00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,440
scream that just went for a long time

800
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:45,520
yeah it sounded like a train i mean it

801
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:47,760
sounded like it what a train would do

802
00:29:56,549 --> 00:29:53,750
and that's why we think there might have

803
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,559
been more than one because you know yeah

804
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:58,240
i think they were either communicating

805
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:59,679
with each other

806
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,159
thinking about it yes yeah

807
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:04,720
that scared us yeah it was it was just

808
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,880
it was really an unnerving sound and it

809
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:08,559
wasn't a dog either you know you'd think

810
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:11,760
it could be a dog but it wasn't a dog

811
00:30:15,830 --> 00:30:14,080
i know it brought that fear factor back

812
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,840
into me because i when i was younger i

813
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:18,000
got attacked by two dobermans

814
00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:20,480
and i knew that fear like when you know

815
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,799
that factor there i heard that i was

816
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:24,399
like whoa that was like that feeling

817
00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,760
again so

818
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,960
uh

819
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:29,360
and then suddenly we hear a lot of

820
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,600
rustling going on behind us

821
00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:33,760
right so a lot of people a lot of people

822
00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:35,440
are saying well why don't you guys stay

823
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,950
we had nothing to be there we had

824
00:30:45,029 --> 00:30:43,360
nothing to protect ourselves yeah and we

825
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,039
were hearing this like rustling sound

826
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:47,039
going on behind us but we stayed out

827
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,480
there for more than we probably should

828
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:50,720
have we were out there yeah maybe

829
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,039
30 minutes and it was and it was right

830
00:30:58,549 --> 00:30:55,840
after right after that third howl

831
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,559
eric you noticed the mist

832
00:31:02,310 --> 00:31:00,240
that was the third yeah the third thing

833
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:02,320
which which was crazy wait a minute

834
00:31:05,670 --> 00:31:04,240
before the mist that's when i went and

835
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:05,680
did the truck diving

836
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:08,080
[Laughter]

837
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:10,960
after that second hal

838
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:13,039
lon you never you ever want to see him

839
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,000
do some truck diving that was ellen man

840
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,240
we wanted to just get back to the truck

841
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:19,760
she dove in the truck and locked the

842
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,679
door she locked her son outside

843
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:25,600
scott was still filming and he's like

844
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:30,630
and so and then i kept thinking you know

845
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:32,170
well

846
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:48,149
god bless him because he he filmed the

847
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:51,840
entire time and didn't flinch i'm like

848
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:54,000
that's a cameraman

849
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:55,120
but i mean

850
00:32:00,470 --> 00:31:58,399
he's our man yeah and where we were i i

851
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:00,480
kept saying film over

852
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:04,080
towards where we heard that screen yeah

853
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,480
i said kev i kept telling him film over

854
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,480
there we were shining our lights over

855
00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:10,559
that way and

856
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,799
we caught eye shine so that's the other

857
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:15,120
thing lon we got eye shine about this

858
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:16,640
thing's supposed to be about six seven

859
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,000
feet when it's yeah yeah we got the eye

860
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:22,000
shine about six or seven feet up in the

861
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,080
tree line and these these in the

862
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:26,000
cornfield in the cornfield and these

863
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:27,679
eyes were darting back and forth in the

864
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:30,640
tree line yeah and it was it wasn't you

865
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,640
could see a light over at the end it was

866
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,720
a farmer's light way out off in the

867
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,120
field that wasn't it this is this is a

868
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:39,840
whole other set of lights or eyes that

869
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,480
were uh that were like they were just

870
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,000
right there

871
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,240
and this is this is something that came

872
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,240
yeah yeah and then this is what this

873
00:32:53,669 --> 00:32:50,640
this is the other thing these in these

874
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,679
internally generated like eyes this is

875
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,440
what's been also talked about they're

876
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:57,519
amazing lee saw it

877
00:33:01,909 --> 00:32:59,840
and ellen say ellen you have a biology

878
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,919
degree yeah you know and that's the

879
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:04,720
tipita lucindum right the the yeah the

880
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,760
typing

881
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,000
yeah and you they're they're only

882
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:10,960
reflective when you put a light on it

883
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:12,960
and then you know if you don't shine the

884
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:15,440
light on it you don't see it you know so

885
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,840
and that's with most mammals you know

886
00:33:22,789 --> 00:33:20,320
and um these are just internally

887
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,799
generated and it's just amazing how they

888
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:24,720
just stay that way well let me ask you

889
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,519
this if that is the case now do you know

890
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,679
of any since you've got this

891
00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:32,159
degree do you are familiar with that do

892
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:34,720
you know of any animal that is able to

893
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,559
generate lights from their eyes no no

894
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,240
see this is something that we get with a

895
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:42,559
lot of cryptids yeah yeah of course

896
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,480
bigfoot and you know

897
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:47,200
the malt man and that and

898
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,549
i mean in your opinion is is it

899
00:33:56,310 --> 00:33:54,240
supernatural

900
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:56,320
i'm gonna say that it's some type of

901
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:58,640
supernatural phenomenon because there's

902
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:00,000
no way

903
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:02,240
you can internally generate

904
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:03,279
a

905
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,240
fully

906
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:06,720
glowing set of eyes constantly there's

907
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:09,520
just no way unless you had some type of

908
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,480
supernatural phenomena you know that it

909
00:34:18,550 --> 00:34:14,560
it it was either some type of

910
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:18,560
supernatural being or some type of um

911
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,159
being that uh was uh you know fully

912
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:25,280
electric you know had some type of

913
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:28,159
thing going on and it just it was weird

914
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,359
because they

915
00:34:34,310 --> 00:34:32,000
they were dancing but they were

916
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,320
you could see them and they didn't

917
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:37,040
didn't change colors you know and or

918
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,879
they didn't change focus

919
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,399
yeah and it was it was definitely it was

920
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:42,399
like two and they they danced together

921
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:44,320
so they didn't they weren't separate

922
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,399
they were together and you know they

923
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:48,720
were so far apart and that was it and it

924
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,520
was eyes and we were talking about

925
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:53,440
there's probably a whole pack there's a

926
00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,240
whole clan yeah oh sure with how many we

927
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,640
heard definitely yeah because i mean we

928
00:35:03,030 --> 00:35:01,040
heard we heard the howls and they were

929
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:03,040
on the other side of the field and

930
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,320
behind us

931
00:35:08,390 --> 00:35:05,760
it was like they were calling to him to

932
00:35:11,190 --> 00:35:08,400
come towards us because behind us all

933
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:11,200
the rustling in the cornfield we heard

934
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,440
and i i said to you eric i'm like

935
00:35:17,030 --> 00:35:15,359
we got to go i mean

936
00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:17,040
we're we're like in the middle of the

937
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,829
yeah we'll go ahead

938
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:24,240
i was going to say it was just grass too

939
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:25,440
in october

940
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:27,839
have any frost or anything so we would

941
00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:29,520
not have heard

942
00:35:35,109 --> 00:35:32,320
that animal coming until it was right on

943
00:35:37,190 --> 00:35:35,119
top of us in the field in the field yeah

944
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,200
what scared us i think the most is that

945
00:35:40,870 --> 00:35:39,599
we know if we were being surrounded by

946
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,880
one right

947
00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,960
three or four and so

948
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,119
you know and i mean that's why we didn't

949
00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:46,880
really break up either because it was

950
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,400
like we had to kind of stay together

951
00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:50,079
just to kind of watch our backs you know

952
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:51,119
yeah

953
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,119
even scott was hearing all this rustling

954
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:55,680
sound going on well let me ask you this

955
00:36:02,069 --> 00:35:58,320
uh after saying that did you see any

956
00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:03,589
uh you know

957
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:06,000
i i don't know if that's if that was the

958
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:08,240
case but it felt like it it felt like

959
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:09,680
like we were being

960
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:12,160
stalked well i mean did you see any dead

961
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,320
animals or any remains of animals that

962
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,079
may have been attacked by this thing or

963
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,720
devoured well that that's the strange

964
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:20,079
thing with lee

965
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,680
he he put out

966
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:23,200
17

967
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,240
roadkill deer and i know about that yeah

968
00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,880
and they just disappeared yeah only one

969
00:36:37,990 --> 00:36:34,880
was left behind

970
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:38,000
did he show you the video

971
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,560
of the the one that he set out there and

972
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,880
and recorded where the

973
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:44,160
it was moved

974
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:50,720
deformed above it yeah yeah and it right

975
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,640
it basically moved

976
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,720
yeah yeah he showed us that video it was

977
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,200
moved into the crotch of the tree right

978
00:37:02,470 --> 00:36:59,520
and it was there and it

979
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:02,480
the way it was like surgically cut

980
00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:04,880
i mean it was missing the four the the

981
00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:07,200
shoulder area and it was just cut clean

982
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,480
off

983
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,320
this and it wasn't it there was nothing

984
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,880
left of that shoulder it was just gone

985
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:14,720
but the animal was still there yeah he

986
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:16,800
just showed me a picture of another deer

987
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,079
he just got

988
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,760
literally was gone within a couple of

989
00:37:24,069 --> 00:37:20,720
days

990
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,079
yeah and it's not and it's not drug away

991
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:26,480
it's picked up and carried away because

992
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,160
none of the grass none of the other

993
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,800
stuff has has been touched and it just

994
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:32,720
literally is just picked up moved and

995
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:34,560
gone

996
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,320
let me ask you this now i'm gonna i'm

997
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,240
gonna do some comparison to see what you

998
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,839
guys have to say about what you

999
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:41,760
witnessed out there now here in

1000
00:37:45,430 --> 00:37:43,680
pennsylvania

1001
00:37:47,670 --> 00:37:45,440
most of the sightings of the upright

1002
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:47,680
canines the bipedals

1003
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,640
are huge i mean eight to ten foot very

1004
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,320
dark in color

1005
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,800
very sculptured body

1006
00:37:58,950 --> 00:37:56,640
the thin waist

1007
00:38:00,710 --> 00:37:58,960
the muscular arms they do have the uh

1008
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,720
they did have the bent legs you know

1009
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,839
just like the dogs the canine legs right

1010
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,200
but

1011
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:07,599
they have the yellow eyes

1012
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,359
now they they stand their ground and

1013
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:11,040
we've had people walk up onto these

1014
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:13,119
things even orange people

1015
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,390
were kind of put off by it because of

1016
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,079
some i don't know if it was infrasound

1017
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,760
or whatever it was but it was something

1018
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,520
they sensed

1019
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,680
that they need to stay away from and

1020
00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:26,960
back away

1021
00:38:31,190 --> 00:38:29,119
yeah well that that was uh you're

1022
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:31,200
exactly right man right well let me just

1023
00:38:35,270 --> 00:38:32,560
say this though

1024
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:35,280
now we didn't see we didn't see a form

1025
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:37,520
we heard we only heard it i wish we

1026
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,680
would have seen it now we saw the eyes

1027
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,760
we saw the eyes now we're going back in

1028
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:43,359
april we've got some tricks up our

1029
00:38:47,990 --> 00:38:45,200
sleeve to to

1030
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:48,000
hopefully maybe even capture this thing

1031
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:49,599
so but here's the thing what you just

1032
00:38:54,710 --> 00:38:52,480
said about it what not wanting us to be

1033
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,720
there that's that's what we felt and

1034
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:56,640
that's why and there were other groups

1035
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:59,599
there that lee had said oh we were told

1036
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:00,960
to leave

1037
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:05,359
and that was to me

1038
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:08,000
that howl that what we encountered was

1039
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:08,720
us

1040
00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:11,119
being told to get that

1041
00:39:15,510 --> 00:39:13,359
you know and

1042
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,520
i mean that's and then the the yellow

1043
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:18,320
eyes so that whole that whole thing was

1044
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,560
to say look let's you got to go we got

1045
00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:22,000
to get out of there yeah we hear that

1046
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,480
all the time now i got i got one

1047
00:39:27,109 --> 00:39:26,000
anecdote i just want to tell you and i

1048
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,119
want your

1049
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:29,040
you know your opinion of it now when we

1050
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:30,400
first started looking into this

1051
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,079
phenomena here in pennsylvania about

1052
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,560
2014

1053
00:39:39,190 --> 00:39:36,880
uh i talked to a witness who lived up in

1054
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,200
clearfield county pennsylvania

1055
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:41,359
and there's a pretty good side elk

1056
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:45,280
population up there but the the the uh

1057
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:47,440
the game commission people

1058
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,000
they do tag them they they put collars

1059
00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:52,640
on them radio collars and such

1060
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:54,960
well he said he was at a gas station and

1061
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,839
he said one of these game commission uh

1062
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,920
officers with the pickup truck pulled up

1063
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,520
and he had a young

1064
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,640
elk

1065
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,880
in the back of the um

1066
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:06,240
the back of the

1067
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:10,880
and he said this thing

1068
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:14,000
had a slit in its throat

1069
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,760
like something took a knife and slit the

1070
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,040
throat

1071
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:19,760
and he said but he asked the

1072
00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:22,560
game commission guy about it

1073
00:40:25,829 --> 00:40:24,079
and he said well if you think that's

1074
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:25,839
weird look at this and he took the

1075
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:28,240
collar he found the collar later

1076
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:29,920
the collar and you know how thick those

1077
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,160
things are with the scrapping and

1078
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:34,000
everything it looked like somebody took

1079
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:36,839
a very sharp knife and just cut it

1080
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,319
wow claus yeah yeah yep

1081
00:40:44,390 --> 00:40:42,720
so it has to be it has to be claws

1082
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:44,400
because yeah

1083
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:45,599
they're just

1084
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,839
it's amazing they're razor sharp

1085
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:49,920
lee uh one of the things about what

1086
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:51,920
happened with lee is he put a raccoon

1087
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:54,319
out there in the tall grass and i think

1088
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,280
the next day came back and he had the

1089
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:59,119
the thing was slit open and all the

1090
00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,599
innards were taken out

1091
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,599
none of the none of the tall grass was

1092
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,640
moved

1093
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,560
it was like nothing like something went

1094
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,319
in picked it up

1095
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,160
and put it out like that

1096
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,560
and there was no way a bird hawk get in

1097
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:13,920
there because we were talking about that

1098
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:16,319
too yeah because they want like birds

1099
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,880
they want fresh they want fresh they

1100
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,640
don't want anything that's already dead

1101
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:22,240
but something went in there cut this

1102
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,599
thing open so

1103
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,599
yeah i mean we have we have turkey

1104
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:27,920
vultures here in pennsylvania yeah the

1105
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,160
turkey vultures you know they they're

1106
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:32,640
huge and they're not they're lumbersome

1107
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,720
and i mean they're clumsy birds they're

1108
00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,800
just big and they're awkward and they're

1109
00:41:39,910 --> 00:41:38,319
gonna they're just gonna flatten out a

1110
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:39,920
whole area yeah they're gonna spread

1111
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,800
this yeah this was not

1112
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,720
yeah interesting well you know

1113
00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:46,640
you know wisconsin has a lot of cryptid

1114
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,480
studying not necessarily a dog man you

1115
00:41:52,390 --> 00:41:50,720
know blind foot and human noise in the

1116
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:52,400
whole nine yards

1117
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,160
um

1118
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,880
and i have had reports in there around

1119
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:59,040
elkhorn of different you know different

1120
00:42:02,550 --> 00:42:00,640
stuff

1121
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:02,560
did you guys get any evidence of

1122
00:42:09,109 --> 00:42:07,359
anything other than the the canine

1123
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:09,119
did you get any evidence of something

1124
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:10,880
questionable other than

1125
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,240
that would have been something that

1126
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:14,319
definitely wasn't a canine

1127
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:17,760
just the ufo sighting okay yeah

1128
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:20,480
and and i mean lee has lee has pictures

1129
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,520
of

1130
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:23,359
things in the air

1131
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,640
i mean i don't want to give away too

1132
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,200
much um but there's stuff he's got like

1133
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,760
that yeah he's got pictures of ufos he's

1134
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,640
got

1135
00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:32,319
so there's definitely more than more

1136
00:42:36,309 --> 00:42:34,480
than just you know the uh the dog man

1137
00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:36,319
out there yeah do you think there's a

1138
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:38,400
connection between the dog man and the

1139
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:39,920
ufos

1140
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:42,240
i personally yeah yeah

1141
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:46,000
yeah and bigfoot i mean if my patch says

1142
00:42:51,430 --> 00:42:47,520
it

1143
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:51,440
and a lot of people and a lot of

1144
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,119
researchers i mean or they're on the

1145
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,720
fence with that they're not going to say

1146
00:42:58,870 --> 00:42:56,640
that you know there's not a big foot

1147
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,880
coming out of a ufo but the more

1148
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,680
evidence we see of this other worldly

1149
00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:03,440
type of stuff going on

1150
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:05,920
it really begs the question

1151
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,240
could this also have a connection

1152
00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:10,480
could there be that connection

1153
00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,280
well you know i i i have talked to linda

1154
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,520
godfrey for years about this and i have

1155
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,920
interviewed her early on

1156
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:19,359
and

1157
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,440
her opinion kind of changed as years

1158
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:22,880
went by too

1159
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:25,680
she went she kind of went stayed away

1160
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,079
from the interdimensional

1161
00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:31,200
supernatural aspect of these beings

1162
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,640
and now she was actually you know years

1163
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,319
just past few years she kind of got a

1164
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:38,720
little on the fence like you said

1165
00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:40,960
now she believes from

1166
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,560
what i had talked to her the last time

1167
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,640
it's been a couple years

1168
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,000
uh

1169
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,240
what you know what do you believe these

1170
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:50,880
are and you know i get this

1171
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,960
i don't know

1172
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,680
you know yeah and i think that i think a

1173
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,480
lot of researchers and investigators are

1174
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,760
starting to

1175
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,760
become more open-minded about these

1176
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,040
phenomena

1177
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,200
because look you know we haven't found

1178
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,560
bodies

1179
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:09,359
we're not finding a lot of physical

1180
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,640
evidence something's going on

1181
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,480
to where you know there's got to be

1182
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,319
another explanation than a flesh and

1183
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,640
blood being well i mean just to give you

1184
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,880
an idea and it's in our video police

1185
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,520
showed us a picture which is just it was

1186
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:25,760
mind-blowing of these orbs

1187
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:28,560
in the middle of the day daylight

1188
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:31,200
and in those orbs it looked like this

1189
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:34,240
creature in the orb yeah it's loading

1190
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:35,680
down

1191
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:36,400
could

1192
00:44:44,390 --> 00:44:41,359
that we saw that night that or

1193
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,400
could that have deposited something

1194
00:44:48,870 --> 00:44:47,200
down to us that night i mean that's it's

1195
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,880
i mean we're getting really out there

1196
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:51,119
tell us to go away yeah

1197
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,839
now

1198
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:53,599
and real quick then ellen you had a

1199
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,000
dream now yes this is another thing this

1200
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,760
is i want to talk about this for a

1201
00:45:03,349 --> 00:44:59,359
couple of minutes only because

1202
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:03,359
we also had dreams of this creature

1203
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:06,000
of what it looked like what it could be

1204
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,839
and this there's a really interesting

1205
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,520
connection why don't you tell that story

1206
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,760
ellen just real quick if you can well

1207
00:45:17,109 --> 00:45:14,160
it was very strange because it it was so

1208
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:17,119
real that after i had the dream i sat up

1209
00:45:23,109 --> 00:45:18,560
in bed and i thought

1210
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,119
what the heck did i just dream because

1211
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,440
we were out there in the field this was

1212
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:26,560
um

1213
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,280
it took place like right before i did my

1214
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,760
truck diving okay so we were all

1215
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:33,280
standing there

1216
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:36,079
flashing our lights and then it seemed

1217
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:38,640
like a time stood still

1218
00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,359
this thing was in front of us this it

1219
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:43,920
was a about a seven foot and and i gave

1220
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,480
eric a drawing of what i thought i saw

1221
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:47,920
in my dream

1222
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:51,440
and um it told me telepathically it said

1223
00:45:56,870 --> 00:45:54,400
hold out your hand and so i did i held

1224
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:56,880
out my hand and it touched me with a

1225
00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:57,839
claw

1226
00:46:02,790 --> 00:46:00,720
and telepathically it said

1227
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:02,800
this is what i'm telling you this is

1228
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:05,200
what is is happening here and this is

1229
00:46:09,510 --> 00:46:06,720
why we're here

1230
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:09,520
and what it said is that all of their

1231
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:12,319
females of their species were dying

1232
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:15,200
and they were there to procure

1233
00:46:20,710 --> 00:46:19,359
more females to propagate their species

1234
00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:20,720
whether it was

1235
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,359
i don't know if it was animal

1236
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,000
species i don't know if it was human it

1237
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:28,480
didn't say didn't delineate

1238
00:46:32,309 --> 00:46:31,119
but it said we're here and it said you

1239
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:32,319
come back

1240
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:36,160
and see us and we'll talk to you again

1241
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,760
that's when we said

1242
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,440
that's when i told eric i said you got

1243
00:46:44,069 --> 00:46:42,079
to go back in april yeah i've been told

1244
00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,079
we have to go back

1245
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:45,599
you know

1246
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,119
not to interrupt eric but that that

1247
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,440
makes a lot of sense when we heard the

1248
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,680
howls and i went back to you you were

1249
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:52,960
kind of just

1250
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,079
there

1251
00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,920
and i said to eric and you know i said

1252
00:46:59,190 --> 00:46:57,599
did you hear that did you hear that and

1253
00:47:00,550 --> 00:46:59,200
and you were just kind of

1254
00:47:02,150 --> 00:47:00,560
yeah i heard it

1255
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,160
you almost looked like you were in a

1256
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:05,119
catatonic state yeah and i was looking

1257
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:08,560
away from you guys yeah i swear

1258
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:09,359
that

1259
00:47:17,670 --> 00:47:14,560
turned into my dream a week later

1260
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:17,680
yeah i'm going to look back

1261
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,720
to me and and said this is what we're

1262
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:21,920
trying to do

1263
00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,559
you know you can't catch us you can't

1264
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,040
you know you can't trap us

1265
00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:29,440
but this is what we're doing and we are

1266
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,520
going to get it done but we want you to

1267
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:33,839
come back and visit us

1268
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:36,000
and that's what we started talking about

1269
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:37,200
that

1270
00:47:43,670 --> 00:47:40,800
your head have you heard something

1271
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:43,680
similar to that yeah um

1272
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,680
now you know we've been investigating

1273
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:47,520
this phenomena around chicago now with

1274
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:49,680
the wing humanoids

1275
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:52,720
um now in the past two years a lot of

1276
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:54,400
this has been happening around o'hare

1277
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,160
and there's there's indication that

1278
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:58,240
there's one specific area around here

1279
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,880
where a lot of this is going on

1280
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,000
and these beings

1281
00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:07,040
and i know it sounds really out there

1282
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:09,119
have been communicating with a few of

1283
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:10,079
our

1284
00:48:14,069 --> 00:48:10,880
team

1285
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:14,079
yeah telepathically yeah and

1286
00:48:23,829 --> 00:48:15,520
they

1287
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,839
hand out

1288
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:26,079
i'm wondering and i tell you we have

1289
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:27,760
been told

1290
00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:30,640
that a lot of the cryptids

1291
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,680
that are seen by people on our earth

1292
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,880
plane

1293
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,800
come from the same

1294
00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:39,599
linear dimension

1295
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:43,510
now

1296
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,359
that i'm thinking

1297
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,280
huh maybe

1298
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,720
maybe this is

1299
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,400
connected somehow

1300
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:53,920
i i don't know

1301
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:55,839
but it was interesting she said it

1302
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,400
because um

1303
00:49:02,549 --> 00:49:00,480
that seems to be the case with what

1304
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:02,559
we're dealing with now

1305
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:05,359
yeah uh we're getting some really

1306
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:07,359
strange

1307
00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:09,440
communications with these what they call

1308
00:49:13,990 --> 00:49:11,839
themselves the unseen ones

1309
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:14,000
um

1310
00:49:18,309 --> 00:49:16,160
so i don't know i mean

1311
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:18,319
it's food for thought but you know

1312
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:20,960
i i don't doubt it i mean

1313
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:22,880
you know i always say that there are

1314
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,680
people that are connected to that to

1315
00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:27,680
that veil there's a very thin veil there

1316
00:49:30,790 --> 00:49:28,559
and there are

1317
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,800
connected like dominic is a spirit

1318
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,880
medium he's connected to that to that

1319
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,160
realm

1320
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:36,240
ellen could also be connected to that

1321
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,520
realm i i think that's true i i think

1322
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,680
cryptids in general

1323
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,160
pick who they can pick who can see them

1324
00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:46,400
right yeah yeah absolutely absolutely

1325
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,200
yeah

1326
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:49,520
i i do believe that to ra and to wrap up

1327
00:49:55,670 --> 00:49:52,559
the story so the the next night uh or

1328
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:55,680
actually that night lon

1329
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:58,640
the whole the whole town of elkhorn lost

1330
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:00,160
power yeah

1331
00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,200
yeah yeah we we got back to the hotel

1332
00:50:07,030 --> 00:50:05,520
and we did a wrap-up

1333
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,040
in the conference room

1334
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:08,800
and then we went upstairs

1335
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:11,760
and about what was it about 11 30. yeah

1336
00:50:16,630 --> 00:50:14,559
about 12 o'clock yeah all of a sudden

1337
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:16,640
the power went out in the hotel

1338
00:50:21,430 --> 00:50:18,160
yeah so

1339
00:50:23,349 --> 00:50:21,440
ellen had to take scott to the airport

1340
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:23,359
and they had the elevators weren't

1341
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:24,720
working so they had to go down the

1342
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:27,599
stairs in the dark morning yeah three

1343
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:30,079
o'clock in the morning and uh we got up

1344
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,440
the next morning we go down for

1345
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:33,839
breakfast eric and i and the lights in

1346
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:37,359
the hotel are all flickering on and off

1347
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,240
and i'm like what is going on and the

1348
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,960
guy said oh cause we lost power yeah and

1349
00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:45,680
the lights the the switches went bad

1350
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,880
he's like um the whole town lost power

1351
00:50:54,230 --> 00:50:51,200
and and it was a it was a bad storm that

1352
00:50:56,069 --> 00:50:54,240
came rolling through and and i i went

1353
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:56,079
and when i went to eric

1354
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,559
eric had a piece of stick that was

1355
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,559
caught it was just in his shoe

1356
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,559
i know on his shoelaces and i'm like you

1357
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:04,319
brought it back with you it's all your

1358
00:51:13,510 --> 00:51:11,750
so uh so i went so just and then to wrap

1359
00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:13,520
this up so after that

1360
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:15,280
uh we're we're on the plane we're

1361
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:18,720
heading back to uh to pennsylvania and

1362
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,440
uh lee sends me a text

1363
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,000
and says oh by the way

1364
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,160
the trail cams that we had out there

1365
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:28,480
that night you guys were there

1366
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:31,680
they stopped working at five o'clock

1367
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,680
it's like something came and turned it

1368
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,000
off there was no pictures of you guys

1369
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,400
out there nothing for that whole night

1370
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:40,800
until the next morning seven o'clock in

1371
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:43,520
the morning it was working again and oh

1372
00:51:50,309 --> 00:51:46,960
thank you the bones were gone yeah yep

1373
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:50,319
by the way the bones were gone

1374
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:53,920
so that was very very strange

1375
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:56,800
it was very weird very very weird

1376
00:52:01,990 --> 00:51:59,280
so we're going back in april

1377
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,000
april 28 through may 1st

1378
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:04,880
uh we're doing a town hall at the uh uh

1379
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:07,920
matheson memorial library on the 28th on

1380
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:11,119
the 28th of of april the 29th we're

1381
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:13,280
going to do some um uh more witness

1382
00:52:18,790 --> 00:52:14,640
testimony

1383
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:21,589
we're going uh to speak at the beast of

1384
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:24,720
railroad conference yeah um that donna's

1385
00:52:27,270 --> 00:52:26,480
putting together and then may 1st is

1386
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,280
where we're going to do the

1387
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,720
investigation again

1388
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,720
and we don't want to divulge what we're

1389
00:52:34,150 --> 00:52:32,400
going to do this time but

1390
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,160
it's going to be a lot

1391
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:37,200
a lot more than what we did before yeah

1392
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:38,400
and we're going to get we're going to

1393
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,720
stay out there a little longer

1394
00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:46,790
so i don't do any more

1395
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,880
i gotta tell you i gotta tell you lawn a

1396
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,480
really good great friend of ours who's

1397
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:52,480
also on the team his name's timothy

1398
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:54,160
wayne williams you may want to talk with

1399
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,480
him too he's a great artist he did the

1400
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:58,960
artwork for the beast de bray road in

1401
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:02,400
our and i used it as transition art and

1402
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:04,880
phenomenal guy and just does incredible

1403
00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,079
work um and uh so

1404
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,000
he's involved and we were getting a lot

1405
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,480
of people involved in this i mean again

1406
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,960
ellen made this possible uh and we've

1407
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,559
got a lot of people that have followed

1408
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:18,079
me from my jazz world into the

1409
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,760
paranormal world because it's

1410
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,599
fascinating i mean these stories are

1411
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:23,359
fascinating they are

1412
00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:24,720
you know you guys are gonna have to keep

1413
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:27,520
me updated on this because i may be out

1414
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:30,800
there around that time oh okay okay uh

1415
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,160
and if i can swing it i may try to meet

1416
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,079
up with you at some point yeah come to

1417
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:37,839
the could be great yeah

1418
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,000
because uh you know i'm thinking some

1419
00:53:44,950 --> 00:53:42,880
things but uh yeah i might i might yeah

1420
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:44,960
that's a good time of the year too oh

1421
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:45,760
yeah

1422
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:46,800
because i don't think it's going to be

1423
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,880
that cold at that point it's like no it

1424
00:53:54,069 --> 00:53:51,440
should be pretty good late april

1425
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:54,079
yep and we hope you have some snow

1426
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:56,240
because you know that's better yeah

1427
00:54:01,990 --> 00:54:00,160
footprints yeah absolutely so we're

1428
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:02,000
um and then

1429
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:03,520
i know we have a couple more minutes but

1430
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:05,520
i wanted to just go in i wanted to just

1431
00:54:09,910 --> 00:54:08,000
talk to you about real quick about the

1432
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:09,920
bigfoot investigation we did in the in

1433
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:11,440
the new jersey pine barrens and this

1434
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:14,559
might be a a segue for a go

1435
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,160
um you know dominic and i uh this was a

1436
00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:20,400
week later this is a week after we got

1437
00:54:24,390 --> 00:54:23,280
one week later one week exactly from uh

1438
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,400
from elkhorn

1439
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:26,559
we met up with eric spinner another guy

1440
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:28,720
that you should talk to great researcher

1441
00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,599
and art mac uh bigfoot researchers in

1442
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:33,760
new jersey uh they took us down to an

1443
00:54:37,829 --> 00:54:35,280
area called the bowl

1444
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:37,839
and it's about five miles into the pine

1445
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:39,359
barrens okay you're familiar with it

1446
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,160
okay

1447
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:42,960
so the bowl meaning that

1448
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:44,960
in this area where you're down below

1449
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:46,960
where these things could get you know a

1450
00:54:51,910 --> 00:54:49,520
view of what you're doing you know

1451
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:51,920
so we get in there we're what five miles

1452
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,119
in and yeah oh my god so

1453
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,040
we get we get in there thank god we had

1454
00:55:02,549 --> 00:55:00,160
dominic's truck that night thank you dom

1455
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:02,559
we got in there and then we went about

1456
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:05,920
five miles in not a soul around nobody

1457
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:08,480
and we go six we bet went about 600

1458
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:10,720
yards into the into the woods

1459
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:13,599
and oh my god green scooter got there we

1460
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:15,920
set up base camp dominic's talking to

1461
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:19,359
art and we all heard that whoop that

1462
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:20,400
everybody

1463
00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:23,280
hears that bigfoot and personally i

1464
00:55:26,309 --> 00:55:24,640
always see those shows and i'm thinking

1465
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:26,319
to myself does that is that really what

1466
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:28,559
it's what it sounded like yeah i'll be

1467
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,319
damned that's not what we heard it was

1468
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:33,200
just unbelievable so then his wife

1469
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:35,680
eric's wife starts answering it back and

1470
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,480
it starts talking back with her

1471
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,040
and it was like not not once but like

1472
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,880
four or five times it was just oh yeah

1473
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:44,160
yeah

1474
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:45,760
so that was one and we heard a whole

1475
00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:48,960
bunch of howls but the the odd thing was

1476
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:52,640
uh the night of october 2nd eric was in

1477
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:55,920
gettysburg he's out near you

1478
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:58,880
he got the same similar

1479
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,520
but at further distance howell

1480
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:03,760
similar to what we got oh yeah well we

1481
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,160
got bigfoot around here

1482
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:08,240
so yeah we we we've had people report

1483
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:10,559
them on to get on the battlefield before

1484
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:12,720
so yeah yeah they're around here

1485
00:56:15,829 --> 00:56:13,839
interesting

1486
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,839
huh

1487
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,520
was amazing yeah you know the pond

1488
00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,280
barons is

1489
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:20,960
talking about bigfoot activity i've had

1490
00:56:24,789 --> 00:56:23,280
a lot of crazy bigfoot out there

1491
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:24,799
reported there

1492
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,160
and uh

1493
00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:27,920
and the place has just freaked me out

1494
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:29,520
anyway because i go in there and i get

1495
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,359
this crazy feeling every time i go in

1496
00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:34,079
there yeah you know but uh absolutely

1497
00:56:39,030 --> 00:56:36,720
strange you know what elon dominic

1498
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,040
dominic felt safer in the pine barrens

1499
00:56:45,349 --> 00:56:42,480
than he did in wisconsin yeah i did

1500
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,359
well yeah the quarry i believe would

1501
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:47,520
probably make you feel safer

1502
00:56:49,589 --> 00:56:48,640
yeah

1503
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:49,599
um

1504
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:51,119
interesting

1505
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:52,240
well

1506
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:53,119
folks

1507
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,280
tell us how people can get a hold of you

1508
00:57:02,789 --> 00:56:57,280
and uh you know

1509
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,799
let us know how folks can contact yeah

1510
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:04,880
absolutely um well they can go right on

1511
00:57:09,990 --> 00:57:07,359
facebook uh bucks county paranormal

1512
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:10,000
investigations on facebook uh we have a

1513
00:57:14,390 --> 00:57:11,839
lot of great videos there they can send

1514
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,400
us messages uh we also have a youtube

1515
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,240
page uh bucks county paranormal

1516
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:18,559
investigations uh working on a website

1517
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:20,480
to get that up and running so

1518
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:22,559
we can get some stories from people on a

1519
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:25,520
lot of the cryptid encounters ufos

1520
00:57:30,069 --> 00:57:27,680
anything that people have encountered we

1521
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,079
want to hear your story um and our

1522
00:57:33,910 --> 00:57:32,000
videos are basically you know we're

1523
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:33,920
we're turning this into

1524
00:57:38,549 --> 00:57:36,400
uh you know paranormal tourism we're

1525
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,559
showing people what what's out there in

1526
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:40,160
their own backyard that they have no

1527
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:42,240
idea and the rich history of a lot of

1528
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:44,240
these great places that we're exploring

1529
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,160
and and telling stories

1530
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,160
and uh and then encountering these

1531
00:57:51,750 --> 00:57:49,760
incredible things

1532
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:51,760
so it's uh it's it's really been

1533
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,480
fascinating we've got a great team here

1534
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,480
uh we also work with dom and we also

1535
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,160
work with another spirit medium karen

1536
00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:01,440
luchan she's been working with us uh and

1537
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:04,559
ellen um we've got some great sponsors

1538
00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,240
uh shanghai jazz will nicholson uh a

1539
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,160
local restaurant mccool's restaurant up

1540
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:12,559
in in our area up here in quakertown so

1541
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:14,640
these are people that are really really

1542
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,760
fascinated by this by this these stories

1543
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,839
and uh and we like to tell them and

1544
00:58:22,710 --> 00:58:21,200
thankfully we've got a lot of people

1545
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:22,720
that have followed us

1546
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,720
and uh love hearing the stories as well

1547
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:26,160
and the way we're presenting it too is

1548
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:27,119
very uh

1549
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:30,000
energetic and family friendly and

1550
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,359
it's uh

1551
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:33,280
pretty cool yep and we're gonna be back

1552
00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:35,760
out in wisconsin the end of april and

1553
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:36,960
then

1554
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:39,040
also we're we're looking to try to get

1555
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,720
back into hillcon

1556
00:58:43,510 --> 00:58:42,240
yeah we're going to be back at hill con

1557
00:58:44,470 --> 00:58:43,520
oh that's right long we're going to be

1558
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:44,480
out

1559
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:46,079
here neck of the woods in

1560
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:48,880
august 13th is hillcon back at haunted

1561
00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:50,960
hill view manor

1562
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,599
pittsburgh castle yeah in newcastle

1563
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,520
and uh dominic and i will be speaking

1564
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:57,839
there and uh so it's gonna be a lot of

1565
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,040
fun and we're trying to get into more

1566
00:59:02,870 --> 00:59:00,880
and more of the uh conventions cryptid

1567
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,880
conventions and all kinds of different

1568
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:04,880
things because this story what we

1569
00:59:09,270 --> 00:59:07,920
encountered in elkhorn has to be told

1570
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,280
okay yes

1571
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:11,359
well you you folks ever get out my way

1572
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:13,520
adam's york county that area

1573
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:16,079
yeah even maryland let me know

1574
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,520
i was actually out uh last year we went

1575
00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:21,280
out to gettysburg and i was on the

1576
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:23,920
battlefields and the just

1577
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,640
being that i'm a medium the noise i i

1578
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:28,720
mean it's just so intense

1579
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:30,960
and i've got stories to tell you yeah

1580
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:33,359
it's just crazy yeah but yeah we were

1581
00:59:36,630 --> 00:59:34,960
out there we went camping and we hiked

1582
00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,640
the battlefields and

1583
00:59:40,309 --> 00:59:38,319
phenomenal just phenomenal out in

1584
00:59:41,990 --> 00:59:40,319
gettysburg

1585
00:59:43,990 --> 00:59:42,000
well folks thanks for coming on this

1586
00:59:45,670 --> 00:59:44,000
evening and uh you have a nice weekend

1587
00:59:47,829 --> 00:59:45,680
and keep in touch

1588
00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:47,839
thank you thanks for having us thanks a

1589
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:49,280
lot all right

1590
00:59:54,950 --> 00:59:51,119
bye-bye bye

1591
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:56,710
now if you have an unexplained counter

1592
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,480
sighting feel free to contact me through

1593
01:00:03,109 --> 01:00:00,960
the phantoms of monsters blog site

1594
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:03,119
i want to again thank uh

1595
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:05,040
eric mental and his team for joining me

1596
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:06,960
this evening and and i want to thank

1597
01:00:09,910 --> 01:00:08,880
each and all of you for watching and

1598
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,920
chatting

1599
01:00:14,390 --> 01:00:12,319
uh if you made a super chat donation

1600
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,400
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1601
01:00:18,549 --> 01:00:16,880
what makes this possible please like

1602
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,559
subscribe and share

1603
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:20,559
now next week my friend and colleague

1604
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,880
timothy renner will join me

1605
01:00:27,349 --> 01:00:25,440
we'll be discussing strange and unusual

1606
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,359
phenomena located

1607
01:00:30,870 --> 01:00:29,200
where i am south central pennsylvania

1608
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:30,880
including witchcraft

1609
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,680
folk magic bigfoot wing humanoids and

1610
01:00:38,710 --> 01:00:35,520
other cryptid activity in the area so be

1611
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:38,720
sure to join this fascinating show

1612
01:00:44,470 --> 01:00:41,040
and i also want to note that

1613
01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:44,480
our january 28th show will be a tribute

1614
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:47,599
to our friend associate butch buckowski

1615
01:00:52,150 --> 01:00:48,480
who

1616
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:52,160
suddenly departed from us yesterday so

1617
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,680
mark that and that should be an

1618
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,280
interesting show

1619
01:01:10,030 --> 01:00:58,319
so until next week stay healthy have a

1620
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:22,670
[Music]

1621
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:47,740
[Applause]